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Mike Ox Bigger
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Posted - 2014.11.23 16:43:00 -
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What's the plan for this weapon? It's currently broken.
Was just standing 72m from the enemy and it says I'm hitting at 39% damage. My standard damage is like 70 something without the damage mod I've got on. So at 70m I'm hitting this dude with around 30+ damage, with no recoil and what seems like no dispersion.
Seems legit...
If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
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Mike Ox Bigger
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Posted - 2014.11.23 16:51:00 -
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Please, I killed him before his RR was even charged :P
Don't try to defend the breach, I know is was broken for a while but when everyone and their mom is running one it needs something done about it.
If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
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Mike Ox Bigger
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Posted - 2014.11.23 17:15:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Please, I killed him before his RR was even charged :P. Oh so you're telling me you got the drop on him at 72 meters? Well that's a different story. You attacked an unaware enemy out in the open. The battle is automatically in your favor, it takes another few seconds for the target to respond and retaliate to you and by then you've already melted his shields with your anti-shield weapon while he is shooting your shield with an anti-armor weapon which takes slightly longer to break through. Verdict: Attacking unaware enemies is OP. All players must accept a duel invitation just before commencing battle.
He was slightly behind cover shooting at me from his redline. It just feels like the damage is too high on the breach with little to no limitations. RR outranges it just slightly but this thing is an all purpose weapon with no drawbacks. My logi approves but my shield tanked assault suits do not.
If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
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Mike Ox Bigger
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Posted - 2014.11.23 19:26:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:
How many people do you kill in this game with the Breach Assault Rifle at 70+ meters?
A lot. The AR's are ass backwards. Should have been more clear in my statement. The Breach AR outperforms the standard AR in every aspect. It out ranges it due to the damage output. There's no use for the standard AR.
Summa Militum wrote:
I think it is complete bullshit to have so many people complain that the Breach Assault Rifle is overpowered. Have you ever thought about trying to strategize against the Breach Assault Rifle?
When you see the majority of good players (and scrubs alike) all flock to one weapon, you know it's imbalanced. It's more OP than the ScR because no heat buildup.
If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
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Mike Ox Bigger
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Posted - 2014.11.24 18:59:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Meanwhile the RR is doing a lot more damage to you at that Range and you die because you're an idiot for fighting a RR at 72 meters. My Rail Rifle can hit dead on at 72 meters for a few seconds then I'm hitting the supply depot, the tank that just spawned far away, the MCC, and pretty much everything but what I'm aiming for.
Yeah aiming down sight has a pretty good recoil after a few seconds. I've abandoned my precious RR.
I just wish CCP would actually play their own game instead of looking at spreadsheets for balancing. It's going to take a month or so for data to show up that the RR is barely used anymore and then another few months before they make it OP again when they try to fix it.
If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
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Mike Ox Bigger
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Posted - 2014.11.25 20:29:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:
39% is lol damage. You'll get hurt badly by RR, ScR and even CR and Tac AR at that range.
40% of 70 isn't really laughable when I'm way out of my gun's supposed range. It equates to about 30 in damage.
What you're not understanding is that at that range I'm doing the base damage of the standard assault rifle. The standard AR at that range will barely damage the enemy. The weapons are working in reverse.
If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
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Mike Ox Bigger
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Posted - 2014.11.26 00:49:00 -
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Commander Noctus wrote:
Ok, so what I'm getting from you, OP, is:
"Yeah, the Breach does do small damage at that range. BUT the problem is it outperforms the Standard in everything, so nerf it to match the Standard"
That's not what I said, I just asked what's the plan with this weapon as it simply outperforms the standard ar.
Commander Noctus wrote:
What you don't understand is that the standard is STILL underpowered (albeit slightly) compared to the other weapons. The Breach does its job: kills EFFECTIVELY at close range, just like it's supposed to, as a CQC Gallente weapon is designed to do. Long range use DOES NOT result in a ridiculous amount of kills, especailly at 39% damage (200dps approximately), unless you're target is standing still, made of sand, and blind/deaf.
It was a militia suit standing in the redline trying to snipe. My point was I shouldn't have been able to kill him so easily at range. My standard AR would have forced me to move much closer to engage.
Commander Noctus wrote:
Why nerf that gun then? If your issue appears to be "The Standard has no place because it is outdone by the Breach". Why not buff the standard then? Bring it up to par with the Breach? That would solve the issue, no? Perhaps give the Breach a bit more dispersion/kick to compensate?
The breach absolutely needs a nerf and the standard variant needs a buff. Trust me I have the AR bpo, I'd love to be able to run the thing more often.
Commander Noctus wrote:
Unless, you're real issue is that a Gallente weapon is, for once, being useful without relying on gimmicks (shotgun)?
I play with a lot of the Gallente weapons, the PLC is one of my favorites currently. I'm just speaking the truth *shrug* I don't mind I've got pro 4 in the AR and will continue to abuse the OP weapon until something is done about it. 
If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
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